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Poster: kschneid Date: Sep 13, 2006 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Trying to love Around & Around

The "The Dead song you really, really tried to love" thread (http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=69216) references Around & Around a couple of times. I just stumbled on a fun one and thought I'd pass it along:

1978-01-07
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-01-07.sbd.cotsman.17806.sbeok.shnf

P.S.
One of the posts in the TDSYRRTTL thread mentions not liking A&A until "a Dicks Pick 1978 version". AFAICT, that would be either #25 (5/10 & 11/78) or #18 (2/3 & 5/78). No A&A on 2/3 or 5/10 so I'll go listen to 2/5 and 5/11...

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OK, so they're both fun, nice sounding auds:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-02-05.aud.set2.warner.19466.sbeok.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-05-11.aud.vernon.6317.sbeok.shnf



This post was modified by kschneid on 2006-09-13 16:51:31

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 13, 2006 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

When I first started seeing the boys in '77 and until somewhere in '80, where they started to pair it with various tunes (JBG, Good Love, Sat Nite etc.), this was a great rock tune that started sort of slow and funky and then picked up and rocked out at the end. One of my favorite versions is 10-27-79.

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Poster: tbrad Date: Sep 13, 2006 5:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Just checked out that version.
I can almost like this tune.
I guess the problem I have with this tune and others like it is that it doesn't really tell a story.
I think most heads are like me in that they want to hear something that is going to capture their imagination and make them think - that's entertainment for people like us, otherwise we wouldn't like Dark Star so much. Around and Around is like bubble gum. It's fun once in a while - but not what I went to dead shows for.

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Poster: kschneid Date: Sep 14, 2006 6:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Huh. Well, this'll probably further your dismissal of the song ;-), but it's one of the numbers I've always liked hearing with Donna. Yep, including the howls.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 13, 2006 11:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Around & Around (Chuck Berry) is in the great tradition of early Rock & Roll tunes that the Dead and JGB played in tribute to the pioneers of Rock & Roll music (including NFA (Buddy Holly), Johnny B Goode, Promised Land, Let It Rock (Chuck Berry) That's Allright Mama (Elvis)). Personally I enjoyed these songs as tributes to the Rock roots of the band, although I was dissappointed that they shortened Around & Around and changed Not Fade Away from one of the best jam songs into the short gimmick that it became after Throwing Stones was introduced.

This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2006-09-14 06:03:20

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Poster: uncleJohnny Date: Sep 14, 2006 6:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

gel, who wrote promised land?

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Poster: kschneid Date: Sep 14, 2006 6:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Pretty sure that was Berry.

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Sep 14, 2006 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

It was Chuck Berry and it's my favourite Berry tune after Too Much Monkey Business, Rock and Roll Music and Down the Road Apiece. Romantics like Greil Marcus say it's the third of a trilogy that begins with Johnny B. Goode and is followed by Bye Bye Johnny. If you listen to all three it really is sort of a story with Johnny himself taking the narrative in Promised Land.

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Poster: uncleJohnny Date: Sep 15, 2006 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

I cant remember the monkey business song
Im going to have to get ahold of some chuck and check it out.
Thanks for the history lesson
One more thing,which johnny is the song talking about?
Im clueless here

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Sep 16, 2006 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Well I always thought that Johnny was Chuck himself. In Promised Land there is no mention of Johnny. The only clue is the "poor boy is on the line" which is how Johnny is described in Johnny B. Goode. Play all three tunes and it all makes sense. The Stones ripped up Bye-Bye Johnny on their '72 tour of America. I have several excellent boots of this tour. One of my fave solos by Keith Richards is him playing the song in NYC. He had the Berry oeuvre nailed. Jerry also understood the Berry style intimately. He could hear the swing percolating underneath and bring it to the fore as well.

Rent the DVD of Hail, Hail Rock n' Roll for a quick history lesson of Chuck. Keith Richards puts together a six star band to play behind Berry in St. Louis. It's fascinating, a laugh, and a first rate documentary. It also rocks.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Sep 14, 2006 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

It was Berry, though the best known version may be Elvis'.

This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2006-09-14 14:50:49

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Poster: jhender501 Date: Sep 14, 2006 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Promised Land is probably my all time favorite dead cover tune. If I could make up CDs of all of the Promised Lands they did, I'd be a happy man.


Jim

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Poster: uncleJohnny Date: Sep 15, 2006 5:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

I would have never guessed
lost your number but ill get it tonight

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 13, 2006 11:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

I don't dig this tune all that much but one neat version is 6-19-76 where at the end they more than double the tempo and really rock it out. They did it a few other times I think but this one stands out. Also at the beginning someone ( I think it's Mickey ) says " Weir have mercy Weir, mercy Weir mercy" not sure exactly mercy from what.

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Poster: kschneid Date: Sep 13, 2006 11:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

Just started listening to it - I think it's more than just the drummers begging for mercy ;-). If you turn it up, you can hear Bobby say, "A little slower, a little slower", right before they kick it off.

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 13, 2006 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

If you get a chance check out the rest. Probably my all time favorite High Time

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Sep 13, 2006 12:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Trying to love Around & Around

the Dicks Picks 18 Around & Around is excellent!